MR JUSTICE JOHNSON Approved Judgment 10. Hegab v Spectator A little later, the claimant took hold of a megaphone and gave a speech to a group of men, many of whom were wearing masks and hoods. He denounced “this terrible apartheid state of Israel”. He said: “The truth of the matter is we are with the brothers and sisters of Palestine, and we will get our vengeance in this dunya or the akhira. We will get our vengeance, and believe you me we believe in a god that is just, and we will get our justice either in this world or in the hereafter. … And the difference between us and them is this… They think that life begins; for us, we believe that death begins. We believe that life begins at death. We don’t care about death. We love death.” 11. After the claimant had apparently left the area, one of the counter protesters said “we’ll find some Jews there. We want the Zionists. We want their blood.” Seminar on Hinduism at the Sapience Institute: April 2022 12. The claimant set up the Sapience Institute. He describes it as an academic institute with a focus on Islamic theology. On 26 April 2022 he uploaded a video of a seminar at the Sapience Institute concerning Hinduism which he chaired. Leicester: May – September 2022 13. There is extensive evidence about the troubles in Leicester in the summer of 2022. It is clear that there were two opposing groups. One group is consistently described as a group of Muslim men. The other (and subject to the question of the Hindutva) is generally described as a group of Hindu men. I adopt that language, without intending any disrespect, and whilst recognising that there is some evidence that the former group also contained Sikh men, that there is a contested issue about the composition of the second group, that the composition of each group was not static, and that, anyway, it is impossible to know whether every member of a group shown on a video clip shares the same religious faith. 14. In May 2022, a group of Hindu men attacked a young Muslim man on a street in Leicester. 15. On 18 August 2022, the claimant made a video in which he spoke about extreme right wing animosity towards Islam. He mentioned the Hindutva. He said that Muslim gangster communities would deal with those who desecrated sacred Muslim symbols, and that whilst he was not “condoning” this, it was “a reality”. 16. On 28 August 2022, India won a cricket match against Pakistan. Fans of India in Leicester celebrated the victory. There was violent disorder, and eight people were arrested. There were allegations on social media that there had been chants, in Hindi, of “death to Pakistan” and “death to Muslims”. 17. On 29 August 2022, CVB tweeted: