Muslims today when the Palestinian Muslims want to defend themselves when the Chechen muslims want to defend themselves when the Kashmir Muslims want to defend themselves with the Iraqi muslims want to defend themselves why do we say that this is terrorism? No this is not terrorism. This is courage this is good the person is defending himself and his family and his womenfolk and his land and his deen this is something which is good. So a characteristic of the muslims should be strength. Be strong in your deen, Be strong in your deen be steadfast in your deen, Be firm in your deen because at the end of the day everyone of us has to die. As Allah (SAW) tells us you may die you will perish every soul will taste death then you will meet allah and if you have turned away from the deen of islam and you have become weak and you become weak minded and you weren’t steadfast you will have to account to Allah for this. But if you are steadfast and you are firm and even if you face trials and tribulations, how long is it for, how long is life for?” 140. In the last section of his talk, the Claimant turned to the characteristics of brotherhood in the deen (belief) of Islam: “We have lost our practicality of Islam. A person will scream about Jihad. A person will scream and shout yes we need to fight. But where is the practicality about doing something for islam? You want to make jihad? Very good. Don’t shout and scream and fight with your Muslim brother who is doing something else for the deen. Take some money and go to Palestine and fight, fight the terrorists, fight the Zionists in Palestine if you want to do this. But Muslims have the lost the practicalities of the deen of Islam.” 141. During the question and answer section which followed, the Claimant was recorded as saying women could not play musical instruments except a small drum, and men could not play instruments and only listen to religious music or take photos if absolutely necessary. “The Sunday Times” article 142. On 12th November 2006, “The Sunday Times” published an article “Islamists infiltrate four universities” co-authored by Mr Taher which referred to the Claimant as a “radical cleric” who had recently urged students at Kingston University to “wage Jihad” in Palestine. In a press statement responding to the article, the university said that it had no record of the talk and Brother Tanveer, a past president of the university Islamic Society, had left the university. The Federation of Student Islamic Societies (“FSIC”) issued a press statement on 14th November 2006, to which the Claimant contributed, stating that the Claimant had been taken out of context and misquoted and that he was actually delivering a talk on the “illegitimate” nature of terrorist activities. BBC’s submissions 31